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they exist among us and sometimes they

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even the devil was an angel once

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first good evening and welcome to

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phantoms and monsters radio where we

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the unknown and the unexplained i'm your

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host lon strickler

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uh two of my new books the mean

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so tonight i have three guests with us

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for this humanoid round table discussion

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first of all uh preston

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dennett began investigating ufos of the

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paranormal

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in 1986 when he discovered that his

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family friends and co-workers were

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having dramatic unexplained encounters

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since then he has interviewed hundreds

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of witnesses

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and investigated a wide variety of

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paranormal phenomena

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he is a field investigator for mutual

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ufo network mufon and a ghost hunter a

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paranormal researcher and the author of

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28 and i think now 29 books

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and more than 100 articles on

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ufos of the paranormal

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several his books have been on amazon's

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ufo bestsellers

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that preston's articles have appeared in

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numerous magazines including fate

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atlantis rising mufon ufo journal nexus

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paranormal magazine

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ufo magazine phenomenal magazine mystery

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mysteries magazine ufologist and others

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he has appeared on newburst radio and

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television programs including

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midnight in the desert with art film

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coast am and also the history channel's

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times the la daily news the dallas

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morning news and other newspapers

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preston has taught classes on various

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paranormal subjects and lectures across

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the united states he currently resides

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in southern california his website can

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we're also joined by eric altman who is

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a cryptozoologist specializing in

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researching the bigfoot sasquatch

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phenomena

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with combined 40 years of study and

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field research

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his well-respected field investigator

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contributing author and founder and

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director of the pennsylvania

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cryptozoology society

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and the executive director of the

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pennsylvania bigfoot society

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eric is also the host and co-founder of

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radio program that covering a variety of

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paranormal and fringe topics from 1997

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eric has been actively investigating

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cases citing claims and conducting field

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work dating back to 1997.

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he has investigated and assisted in

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investigating over 250 cases of bigfoot

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sightings encounters and claims in

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pennsylvania in the surrounding states

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eric is much sought after public speaker

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and topics of bigfoot and other cryptids

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for over 21 years

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he has lectured and presented across the

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country dating back to 2000. eric has

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also been featured

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in multiple documentaries films and

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television programs about bigfoot his

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at eric altman.net

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now anna maria manalo is an author in

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the genre of fiction and non-fiction

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as an amateur travel photographer she

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countries has had compiled accounts of

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episode two of the pilot ufos over earth

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while she was a field investigator from

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mufon her personal experiences with the

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bazaar has led to her lifetime quest

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so folks thanks for joining me this

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can everybody hear me yeah yeah okay

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now we have gathered here

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to talk about human noise now

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when we say humanoids

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human-like beings that walk upright

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indigenous flesh and blood entities

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or is there for the most part a

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preston um

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preston thanks for joining this evening

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what's your what's your thoughts on

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into cryptozoology when i started

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getting ufo bigfoot reports

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when i started interviewing people and

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looking into this phenomena of

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extraterrestrials is

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that almost universally people report

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humanoids

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getting the blob

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or some octopus-like creature

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skeptic i came to this philly skeptic

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that ets would look something completely

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seeing this is not what people are

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reporting this is not what the evidence

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your basic humanoid shape

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and that struck me real hard because it

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just that seems so unlikely to me

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and then of course you can start

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breaking that down with various humanoid

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and i can say in my own files i mostly

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get what we would term grays

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which again is really curious to me

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because i mean out of all the animals or

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insects even on our planet praying

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straight up human looking ets ones that

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no different except perhaps slightly

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stronger often described as being very

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much like twins or brothers

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tall whites uh little blue beings

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strange i get many reports of absolutely

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giant chain huge forehead and straw like

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or another 10-foot humanoid with

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enormous

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eyes with gold irises and wearing a

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black jumpsuit and

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really wrinkly skin

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e.t humanoids but

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you know sasquatch and

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like aliens complete with fur and ears

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the template and that would be the first

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mufon so when i think about humanoids i

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think about the encounters uh that

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people have witnessed and shared with me

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mantis i had a couple of cases that

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dealt with praying mantises

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people say humanoid basically they're

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talking about something that walks

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of trace

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uh they don't necessarily have a body

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something that's etheric

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appear and disappear in certain places

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uh is just really baffling to me

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and then you have the humanoid uh you

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know that looks like a rake

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and this is something that walks upright

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but the knees are on backwards so we go

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that seems to be very tall to one that's

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probably about three feet

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so it there's a great variation at least

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you know from what

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all the stuff that i've heard so far

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so eric you know you're the bigfoot guy

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here and um

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and involved in cryptids

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and

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quite frankly

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most of these are humanoid-like beings

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what are your thoughts

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well yeah they they most of them

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aren't just described as

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tall and hair covered

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i mean preston and anna both talked

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about different species the people are

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seeing different races

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different types of hominid looking

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creatures but

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the two cryptids that i'm familiar with

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that might fall into that category would

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be of course bigfoot and the dog man

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both are upright walking hominid if you

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want to call them looking creatures

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but both are hair covered and both have

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generally the same description you know

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tall upright long legs long arms

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although the dog man differs from

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bigfoot where it has a snout and a tail

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and of course bigfoot as we know is it

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ranges anywhere from five foot to i've

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gotten reports as 12 foot high

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um so that's what i'm most familiar with

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but working with stan gordon all these

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many many years he's

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referred and relayed reports to me about

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other types of hominids

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especially here in pennsylvania the rake

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is something commonly reported

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um we've had some

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cases of very unusual looking hominids

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that we might even call like the glimmer

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man or the shimmer man

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very predator-like um cloaking ability

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where people just see that shimmer

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and it looks like an upright walking

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human or hominid or human humanoid

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whatever you want to call it but we've

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gotten reports like that as well as stan

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has and he shared them with me and yeah

341
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there's some strange things that happen

342
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here in pennsylvania that fall into that

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category

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well you know

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it's almost like every day i get

346
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something it has some type of humor

347
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involved with it it's it's bizarre

348
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and it has has increased

349
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every day i mean it you know for like

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the past decade it's been i'd say 50

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humanoids if not you know something

352
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involved with something that kind of

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like a human-like being

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uh you know preston brought up a good

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point about the being a template uh with

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uh with alien beings and other

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maybe ultra-terrestrials

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extraterrestrials

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uh it does seem that maybe the human

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species

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may actually be

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a universal species

363
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in other words

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what we see

365
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and this is my thoughts

366
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what we see are possibly evolved humans

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and uh

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that are either coming back or part of

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coming through some type of uh wormhole

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or some type of portal

371
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but i believe i believe after all these

372
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years i've been doing these

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investigations

374
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that

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the human the human species seems to

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have evolved into these other types of

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beings that could be other way around it

378
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could be you know we've evolved from

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these

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but i don't think that's the case so uh

381
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yeah i mean it's root for thought

382
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i i think you're um

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on the right lines there

384
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and i think probably the variation we

385
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see among the ets is due to evolution

386
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and that would probably have i suspect

387
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that grays have genetics like we do

388
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uh and you know by that i mean dna and

389
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so forth

390
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and i liked what uh anna said uh because

391
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the whole interdimensional aspect is

392
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very interesting to me

393
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because you know i'd say that by and

394
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large most researchers and experiencers

395
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alike feel like this is

396
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probably extraterrestrial in the classic

397
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sense with that i mean biological beings

398
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like us

399
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from other planets

400
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but then again there's several cases

401
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like kind of says where these things

402
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behave in ways that are interdimensional

403
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and i think this is kind of

404
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gives rise to the second most popular

405
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theory that we're dealing with an

406
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intelligence that can put on different

407
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masks so to speak

408
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which i don't really fully subscribe to

409
00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:53,519
i think we're probably dealing with

410
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different entities and some are

411
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interdimensional

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because if you look into the fairy lore

413
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of you know ireland

414
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it's

415
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pretty compelling that people were

416
00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:04,720
seeing something

417
00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,800
there's a wide variety of these types of

418
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creatures and you know eric is talking

419
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about sasquatch and bigfoot well some

420
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people are seeing

421
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you know

422
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what look more like neanderthals or you

423
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know ancient man they're not covered in

424
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:21,519
hair these are just

425
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primitive human looking

426
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:24,959
beings

427
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and the variety amongst the sasquatch

428
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beings is

429
00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:29,759
amazing i mean look at the variety we

430
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,759
have on our own planet

431
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the difference between us four is just a

432
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small example of how

433
00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:38,000
different humans can look and that's

434
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,160
exactly what we see among greys huge

435
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:42,399
variety among greys huge variety among

436
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praying mantids

437
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so i think we're probably dealing with

438
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not only extraterrestrials

439
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but a wide wide variety a lot of it is

440
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,000
getting put under one umbrella and i'm

441
00:16:58,629 --> 00:16:56,480
not so sure that's wise

442
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:58,639
still need a lot more research here but

443
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:00,639
it's clear to me we're dealing with

444
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,160
many different things here

445
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,640
want to add to that

446
00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,640
well i think preston has a very good

447
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:10,079
point there because

448
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one of the things i've observed is that

449
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some leave trace evidence some don't

450
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,400
uh and i'm beginning to wonder whether

451
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:20,720
we're looking at things that have lived

452
00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:23,679
on this planet for a very long time way

453
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,400
before us that are materializing and

454
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,559
we're just not able to comprehend them

455
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,120
or classify them and then we have ones

456
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that are coming from outside the planet

457
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outside the solar system and then ones

458
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,360
that are coming from a totally different

459
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dimension so you got a mishmash

460
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of so many different kinds of entities

461
00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:48,160
and in our three-dimensional word world

462
00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:51,200
we try and classify them and and they're

463
00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:54,960
not that easy to classify we're limited

464
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in our ability to

465
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:59,760
peg them because there are some forms of

466
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existence

467
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,480
we just

468
00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,720
can't comprehend at the level that we're

469
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,120
in i mean we're almost like animals in

470
00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,440
comparison to them you know some of them

471
00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:11,679
have the capability to heal

472
00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:13,919
some of them have the capability to buy

473
00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:15,679
locate i mean there's so many things

474
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:22,310
eric um let me ask you this

475
00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:25,990
you and i have known each other a good

476
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,320
while now and uh what are your thoughts

477
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:31,200
on the bigfoot phenomena as far as

478
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,799
are they flesh and blood

479
00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:34,720
or maybe flushing blood and able to move

480
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has

481
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:40,880
have your

482
00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:44,799
theories changed on that over the years

483
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:46,320
it's hard to

484
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,240
answer that question because i think

485
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,400
we're not dealing with just one

486
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species and preston summarized it pretty

487
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,039
well people are seeing a variety of

488
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different types of hair covered

489
00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:59,840
entities or beings whether your typical

490
00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:02,320
bigfoot that leaves footprints that

491
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,440
breaks branches that people can

492
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,160
audibly record and there's physical

493
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:10,240
evidence left behind then there's others

494
00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:11,919
people are seeing that

495
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um are there and then gone in either a

496
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:18,000
flash of light or dematerialize or

497
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materialize in front of the eyewitness

498
00:19:23,909 --> 00:19:21,919
then there's other reports of as preston

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mentioned the neanderthal type of

500
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creatures that are people are seeing

501
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:27,600
that don't necessarily look like a

502
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,760
bigfoot but look more like a archaic

503
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,120
human or

504
00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:33,120
hominid um

505
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so it's hard to say what exactly we're

506
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:37,760
dealing with um the majority of of the

507
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,320
bigfoot reports that i receive are

508
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,559
seem to be of a flesh and blood type

509
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:45,440
nature uh an animal that's terrestrial

510
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,799
to this planet

511
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and uh they leave footprints they leave

512
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sometimes leave scat people find cuffs

513
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of hair here and there

514
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um and they physically see an animal

515
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:56,960
that walks away and disappears into the

516
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darkness of the forest and again there

517
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:01,840
are others that i get from time to time

518
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and i know other researchers i've worked

519
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,280
with others very closely over the years

520
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,120
that have received those reports that

521
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that seem to have a fringe element to

522
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them where whether it's interdimensional

523
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or

524
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uh possibly ufo related there's been

525
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:16,720
several cases here in pennsylvania in

526
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the 1970s that have been reported to

527
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,480
stan gordon that have that ufo aspect or

528
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,640
uh interdimensional aspect involved in

529
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,480
it so i don't know if we're necessarily

530
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:28,320
dealing with

531
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this same type of animal that has these

532
00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:33,039
a variety of attributes or we're dealing

533
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:34,880
with different types of animals that

534
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:36,400
fall under that just that general

535
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:37,840
umbrella of

536
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:39,919
the name bigfoot

537
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:43,039
do you think they're intelligent

538
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,799
oh extremely sensitive yes i think

539
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,559
they're very intelligent

540
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:48,400
yeah i think they're very conscious of

541
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,840
of the world around them i think they're

542
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,600
very conscious of human beings and how

543
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,039
dangerous we are

544
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,720
and that's why they avoid us at all

545
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,559
costs and the chance encounters that

546
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,720
happen are just that chance encounters

547
00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:00,320
their accidental

548
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,520
people being in the right place at the

549
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,720
right time and the creature being in the

550
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:04,480
wrong place at the right time

551
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:06,640
and i i that's what i honestly think i

552
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:07,440
mean

553
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,320
yeah

554
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,080
i think that's what's happening but i

555
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:11,679
think they're intelligent enough that

556
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:14,240
they've avoided capture and being killed

557
00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,159
by people for a long long time at least

558
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:17,919
that we're aware of they've been

559
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,280
avoiding us for a long long time and

560
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:20,960
we'll continue to do so

561
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,640
yeah i will say i did interview a

562
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:24,240
gentleman who

563
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,360
was out in the northern california area

564
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,799
and came

565
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,280
on a riverbed this is

566
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:33,280
in the trinity area i think

567
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,640
at any rate he had a ufo up here and or

568
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:38,159
i'm sorry a bigfoot

569
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up here in front of him

570
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:41,520
just out of thin air

571
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and

572
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:43,840
it started communicating with him

573
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:45,919
telepathically this is one of more of

574
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,360
those psychic sasquatch reports

575
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,120
and uh

576
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,640
then his

577
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,559
female sasquatch appeared and their

578
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,600
child

579
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:57,360
and then they disappeared

580
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,640
and uh

581
00:22:03,430 --> 00:21:59,919
so

582
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:03,440
you know what we would think of as

583
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,320
sentient interdimension or evolve to the

584
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:09,039
point where they can do interdimensional

585
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,480
kinds of things

586
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,280
right uh and some are just your average

587
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,360
you know primate wandering around the

588
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:17,039
wilderness and super

589
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,559
aware just as you know many animals are

590
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,960
but yeah i got involved in bigfoot kind

591
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,360
of kicking and screaming

592
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,039
because i was afraid it might be real

593
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,600
and of course sure enough it was

594
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,440
and the evidence was absolutely

595
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,200
overwhelming people who don't believe in

596
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:35,600
bigfoot have not done their homework

597
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:37,919
it's absolutely real

598
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:41,039
and the variety is mind-blowing and

599
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,799
going back a little bit to the whole

600
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,240
inter-dimensional

601
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,400
aspect people often ask me you know do

602
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,039
you think et's might be interdimensional

603
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:51,440
my answer is well yes i think

604
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,320
probably all entities to some degree

605
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:56,480
have interdimensional aspects

606
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,360
and i'm going to lump humans into this

607
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:01,200
because we do have a soul i think the

608
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,720
evidence for life after death and

609
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,480
autobody experiences and near-death

610
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:07,679
experiences and ghosts and mediumship

611
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,960
and all of that is very persuasive

612
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,720
and there are people you know who do

613
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,799
have the ability to

614
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,120
do things that are very much along

615
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,440
interdimensional lines such as

616
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,799
levitating or

617
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,720
disappearing i'm talking about advanced

618
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,919
yogis

619
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,679
things like this or you know saints

620
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,600
throughout history

621
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,840
human levitation has been verified in a

622
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:31,600
laboratory setting

623
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,760
it's appeared in all cultures

624
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,240
it stretches back hundreds of years

625
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:38,320
there is absolutely an interdimensional

626
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,520
aspect

627
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,679
so i'm not sure that that provides a

628
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,440
whole lot of insight

629
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,240
into the origin of these creatures

630
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,400
because ultimately we all have sort of

631
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:50,960
interdimensional aspects to us and our

632
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,840
true home is on the other side

633
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,679
i don't know there's

634
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,320
this field is still pretty new

635
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:00,400
uh we really haven't absolutely you know

636
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,840
looked into humanoids

637
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:05,600
what the

638
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,559
mid

639
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,559
1940s that's when we really started

640
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,880
doing scientific research into bigfoot

641
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,880
and ets and

642
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,400
all these various

643
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,720
humanoids

644
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:18,799
well we're it's still enough room for us

645
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,000
to sound crazy to most people

646
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,679
yeah that's true

647
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,159
yeah yeah so you know

648
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:28,559
of course you know most of what we deal

649
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,400
with are enigmas anyway so um

650
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,320
uh that brings up a question here uh

651
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,720
from nancy malcolm uh how many of

652
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:39,360
today's cryptids have ties to mythology

653
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,799
and and ancient tales uh anna you want

654
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,880
to handle that

655
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,559
well you know when you look at the

656
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:48,960
history of some of these creatures the

657
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,159
elementals the fairies uh all those

658
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,640
things they are universal

659
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,360
uh these creatures are seen all over

660
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,880
parts of the globe

661
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,440
in asia in the middle east

662
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:03,919
uh obviously you know in parts of

663
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:07,200
ireland scotland uh most of europe

664
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,120
uh i'm not going to name every single

665
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:10,799
one of them but every culture has a

666
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,320
gnome every culture has an elf uh you

667
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,120
know we talk about something that comes

668
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,960
out of um i'm trying to remember what

669
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:20,320
they're called now

670
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,279
uh there's a gentleman who passed away

671
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,200
whose name evades me right now but he

672
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:27,840
visited mounds in ireland

673
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,400
anybody remember who that is uh philip

674
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,559
and brogna

675
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,640
trying to remember the title of the book

676
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,279
but he talks about these mounds and how

677
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,919
they're inhabited by these creatures

678
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:42,960
uh whether they be gnomes or protectors

679
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,799
of the earth or whatever they are you

680
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,120
don't disturb them you don't uh

681
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,039
destroy them because somehow something

682
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:51,039
happens something negative happens when

683
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,159
you do

684
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,240
uh so those kinds of things have been

685
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:57,039
with us for a very long time

686
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,640
i don't know that they're flesh and

687
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,720
blood at all however they are you know

688
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:03,039
as they are guardians of the earth

689
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,760
or guardians of what used to be paradise

690
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,360
uh so they are definitely

691
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:09,440
interdimensional to me

692
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:12,480
uh if you're talking about cryptids like

693
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,440
you know

694
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:15,760
eric's specialty here with bigfoot i

695
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,559
think

696
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:19,440
bigfoot preceded us i mean it's just so

697
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:21,440
obvious in his makeup

698
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:24,159
uh in his ability to perceive and to

699
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:25,600
communicate

700
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,120
um that these are creatures that are

701
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,679
have been here for centuries way before

702
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:36,070
uh we've got another interesting

703
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,440
question here

704
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,000
why from andrew boyle why does our

705
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,760
government hide the existence of

706
00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:43,679
humanoids and i guess you could put

707
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,790
cryptids in it as well

708
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:47,440
[Music]

709
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,669
i could speak for the cryptid side of

710
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,679
things in my opinion why the government

711
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,720
hides

712
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,520
the existence is monetary

713
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,760
i think you know if

714
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,360
it did come to light that bigfoot was

715
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:05,200
real and not to just the knowers to the

716
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,400
general public

717
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:07,919
they're going to have to set aside large

718
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,400
swaths of land as habitat and

719
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,559
preservations for these animals

720
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,520
and that might also influence uh

721
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,360
recreation

722
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,640
if people know that there's a creature

723
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,320
in that area they may avoid going

724
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,960
camping hunting hiking fishing

725
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,120
the loggers logging industry may be

726
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,799
affected if you remember what happened

727
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,000
to the uh

728
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,799
the ivory-billed woodpecker

729
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,960
and the spotted owl when they were

730
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,600
thought to be endangered species they

731
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,360
stopped people from going into those

732
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,919
areas to protect those animals

733
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,760
and if that happens with bigfoot and

734
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,760
they decide it's a it's a protected

735
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:45,760
species on the endangered species list

736
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,200
that's going to really affect a lot of

737
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,760
things monetarily so i think that's one

738
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,840
reason the other reason is i don't think

739
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,919
the general public is quite ready to

740
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,720
accept the existence of bigfoot a lot of

741
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,399
us there's a lot more getting involved

742
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,320
in it and there's a lot more starting to

743
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,640
accept it but i don't think overall

744
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,559
they're ready to and plus you also have

745
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,720
to throw in the religious aspects

746
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,640
there's a lot of people that believe

747
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:11,120
um humans were created from adam and eve

748
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,399
you know god created humans and there

749
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,559
was no other species like a bigfoot

750
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:16,559
that's closely related to us so that

751
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,559
might also have implications as well so

752
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,399
as far as cryptids go i think there's

753
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,840
several reasons why the government

754
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:23,919
hasn't uh acknowledged or released

755
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,320
information if these cryptids exist

756
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,960
yeah i think it's very similar with ets

757
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,399
and humanoids too

758
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,159
ultimately it's money it comes down to

759
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,640
greed and power and control

760
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,480
and that's been the government policy

761
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,799
from day one covering up this ufo

762
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,240
subject

763
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:42,320
uh i think we probably

764
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,240
you know we're an oil-based economy if

765
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,559
we truly do have these craft

766
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,919
and i think we do

767
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,240
that would very much upset our economy

768
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,240
it would upset religion i think along

769
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,840
with bigfoot it's going to upset you

770
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:55,440
know mainstream science in a lot of

771
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,720
different ways

772
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,240
i think there's a lot of reasons but

773
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,559
ultimately it comes down to greed power

774
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,080
and control

775
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,840
but moving back to that prior question

776
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,600
about mythology

777
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:07,840
i would just add here that uh you know

778
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,159
the whole angels and demons

779
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,240
uh thing there's a good portion of the

780
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:13,919
population who feel like the ufo

781
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,240
phenomena is demonic

782
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:19,120
and uh i looked into that and i do think

783
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:20,080
there

784
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,640
uh but i think that's a separate

785
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,720
phenomena and as far as angelic i think

786
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,880
that's probably separate as well

787
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,360
but real quick i did talk to one lady a

788
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,440
contact in maine

789
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,360
who was in contact with the grays and

790
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,840
they gave her all kinds of information

791
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:39,440
and they told her flat out who you

792
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,399
thought was angels was us

793
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:45,120
and that you have misinterpreted it

794
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,320
so there seems to be a little bit of

795
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,399
bleed through here and there

796
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,799
uh with how people are interpreting this

797
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:52,559
phenomenon is based largely on your

798
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:54,880
belief system

799
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:57,600
but i like what ana said this is these

800
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:59,200
phenomena

801
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,559
precede us

802
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,840
and i think that's why there's a new

803
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,279
interesting term that i find quite

804
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,919
intriguing called crypto terrestrials

805
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,799
that perhaps these aren't

806
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:08,320
extraterrestrials as we would think of

807
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,760
them but probably were here before us

808
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,000
so yeah lots of questions still to be

809
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,880
answered but i think the cover-up is

810
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,480
ultimately

811
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:20,799
due to greed and power and money and

812
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:23,760
control

813
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,760
so let me ask each and one each of you

814
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,120
this um

815
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,919
what encounters have you had with

816
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,840
with these with humanoids have you had

817
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:34,240
any encounters or you've had any

818
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:35,360
close calls them captioning not

819
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:52,310
i have encountered what people would

820
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,200
call a demonic entity

821
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,600
uh you know having been born and raised

822
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:59,200
in the neighborhood that was replete

823
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,080
with all kinds of uh you know

824
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,960
phantoms no monsters so to speak uh but

825
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,039
but there was a lot of infestations in

826
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:10,000
neighborhoods and and houses around me

827
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,120
uh

828
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:12,880
but they're not flesh and blood they're

829
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,840
not the variety that you can injure or

830
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,360
run after

831
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:20,399
i i would say they take of course human

832
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,440
form

833
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,559
uh but these are the ones that you know

834
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:26,640
are there because their life has been

835
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:29,600
cut short some tragedy has happened or

836
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:31,600
perhaps someone decided they would play

837
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,159
with an ouija board one day

838
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:36,640
so uh that's pretty much the limit and

839
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,909
how about you preston

840
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:45,440
to some degree

841
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:46,480
you know i've interviewed a lot of

842
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,559
people and their experiences are far far

843
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:50,640
more expensive than i have

844
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,600
mine

845
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,919
uh i did see my mother's ghost so i have

846
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,679
had some experiences with ghost and did

847
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,320
do some ghost hunting and

848
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480
experience some phenomena

849
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,159
uh but that was really the only

850
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:03,760
apparition i've seen

851
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,039
as far as ufos i've definitely seen ufos

852
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:09,679
can't say full out i've seen

853
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:12,559
aliens uh though i think i did have a

854
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,519
one ufo missing time encounter

855
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,519
and there is a possibility that once

856
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,519
something was in my bedroom

857
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,600
because i did wake up and thought you

858
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,960
know and i kind of put this in quotes

859
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:24,720
and i don't often talk about it but you

860
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,269
so yeah i thought i saw something

861
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,360
standing next to my bed

862
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:33,840
and it's you know my heart bumped wildly

863
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,640
and it took off like

864
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,559
i've never seen anything move which is

865
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,919
certainly something i've heard described

866
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,360
from other people

867
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,279
and i do think on some level i am

868
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,600
involved with this phenomena and they

869
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:47,279
started investigating me after i started

870
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,880
investigating them

871
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,480
certainly within my family i've had

872
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,480
family members who have seen

873
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,600
grays

874
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:55,600
or humanoids

875
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,159
so to some degree and as far as bigfoot

876
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,840
i will say i did have a bigfoot

877
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,960
encounter

878
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:02,320
as well

879
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,600
i'm the kind of researcher who's you

880
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,360
know i'm not satisfied to just read

881
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,120
about it or interview i want to go there

882
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:09,440
and see it myself

883
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,640
so

884
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,159
when a lady

885
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,799
who i interviewed up in acton

886
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:16,799
this is in southern california she lives

887
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,840
along the

888
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,760
l.a national forest

889
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,679
said she was having bigfoot encounters i

890
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,279
was straight up there and you know

891
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,880
interviewing her and looking at the

892
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,440
alleged footprints and

893
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:29,840
her roommates saw it her son saw it you

894
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,799
know it

895
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,559
cracked a tree branch she had some

896
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,159
pretty good evidence

897
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,320
and we drove off into the forest where

898
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,640
she thought it was coming from

899
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,080
and we brought you know cameras and

900
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,960
sound equipment it was dusk when we got

901
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,559
there and she's like pointing to this

902
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:46,159
valley stick i think it lives right in

903
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,440
there

904
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,440
and we had no sooner really exited the

905
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,440
car she was pulling out the equipment

906
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:52,799
and i'm walking up to the edge of this

907
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,760
ravine and i heard this thing roar

908
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,919
i didn't see anything but

909
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,000
you know i lived in an area

910
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:02,399
where i grew up where there was cougars

911
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,679
and coyotes and things like this

912
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,679
and i did not recognize this roar as a

913
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,000
bear or a lion or anything like this i

914
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,760
mean it was a deep

915
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,159
thunderous roar that vibrated in your

916
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,520
chest

917
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,200
and she completely freaked out she's

918
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,800
like come back in the car because i was

919
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,399
running towards it

920
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,839
i wanted to see it

921
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:23,280
and it roared again

922
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,320
and each roar was about 10 seconds long

923
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,919
so i was pretty much convinced it was

924
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:30,240
bigfoot but no i didn't see it but that

925
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:31,760
is my bigfoot encounter and i think it

926
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:32,560
was

927
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:33,679
probably

928
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,320
the actual sasquatch but i don't know

929
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:40,480
so how about you eric i know you've had

930
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,440
some close calls uh can you tell us

931
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,000
about any encounters you've had

932
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,639
i've never seen a sasquatch line as you

933
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,119
know yeah um at least nothing i can say

934
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,440
was definitively a sasquatch i've seen a

935
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,520
couple strange things in high beams of

936
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:56,960
my car

937
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,520
i've heard things on countless occasions

938
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,880
i've been in the woods

939
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:03,520
over almost 30 years but actively

940
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,079
looking in the woods for 27.

941
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,960
and i've found the footprints

942
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:09,839
i've

943
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:17,190
tree stackings branch breaks and twists

944
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:20,079
um mutilated animals that weren't killed

945
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:20,800
by

946
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,640
a bear or a coyote

947
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:27,040
i've seen the weird ghost lights in the

948
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,480
forest on

949
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,800
countless occasions now especially in

950
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,480
the last 10 years

951
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,000
um

952
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,800
i've never seen an alien or

953
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,400
anything that might be

954
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,119
considered to fall into that category

955
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:44,000
but i've had a lot of uh

956
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,920
encounters where i've been like you said

957
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,680
very close to something

958
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:49,760
what it is i have no idea

959
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,440
um i can only speculate and guess

960
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:55,520
but uh some pretty hair-raising close

961
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,710
yeah well you know you know my story i i

962
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:04,320
have had a bigfoot encounter and i have

963
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:07,119
had a winged humanoid encounter so

964
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,079
uh

965
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:10,240
and i wasn't necessarily looking for the

966
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,839
first one the second one kind of showed

967
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:13,359
up but

968
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,760
you know i i but you know it is one

969
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,599
interesting it is interesting that so

970
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,119
many people that are involved with the

971
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:21,839
paranormal or encrypted and such

972
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,880
have never had a real

973
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,880
what they can call a you know an

974
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,079
encounter or

975
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,880
a very close and personal sighting

976
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,040
uh and it's just like i go back and i

977
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:36,000
talked about stan stan gordon has

978
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:37,839
all these years he's been involved he's

979
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,119
never saw one he's never sold bigfoot

980
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:42,560
um

981
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,520
reminds me when i wrote

982
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,079
the book ufos over in new mexico i ran

983
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,359
into two owl man cases

984
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,200
which i'm like wow you know this is

985
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,440
crazy and there are many reports people

986
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:01,760
seeing flying humanoids

987
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,359
not necessarily with wings but sometimes

988
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,240
and uh definitely makes me wonder about

989
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,079
what is going on here and there's the

990
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:12,160
those older reports of spring hill jack

991
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,200
and of course

992
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:14,800
the mothman of

993
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:17,520
point pleasant west virginia

994
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,320
uh

995
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,920
there's probably a lot more stuff going

996
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:21,200
on out there

997
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,560
people think of the

998
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,720
world as being fully explored

999
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,320
it's not

1000
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,079
there's a lot of wilderness areas out

1001
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,640
there people are largely clustered

1002
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,119
in city centers

1003
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,960
so it doesn't surprise me at all that we

1004
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:38,000
still are discovering new species

1005
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:38,640
and

1006
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,560
lawn you remember the butler gargoyle

1007
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:43,760
yeah that took place in butler

1008
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,040
pennsylvania

1009
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:46,880
back in i want to say the

1010
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,760
mid 20 what 2015 2016 something like

1011
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,320
that maybe 2014. a guy driving down the

1012
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:54,400
road witnessed what he described as an

1013
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,760
eight foot tall

1014
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,320
grayish colored looking gargoyle with

1015
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,040
wings tucked in against its back

1016
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,880
and it was at night he saw it in his

1017
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,640
headlights and it walked across the road

1018
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,560
and disappeared under a

1019
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:08,160
sign on the side of the road and

1020
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:15,430
yeah the you know this um this whole

1021
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:17,839
winged humanoid phenomena and you know

1022
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:20,880
of course i had my encounter in 88

1023
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,599
but uh this whole you know

1024
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:25,520
since our team has been involved with

1025
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,280
this chicago

1026
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,040
what they call the chicago mothman

1027
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:32,480
chicago phantom o'hara mothman you know

1028
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,800
uh has really opened my eyes as to

1029
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:37,920
what

1030
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,400
these things are very well could be

1031
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,480
uh it it's

1032
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:45,440
it's just nuts i mean i mean i feel so

1033
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,920
fortunate i've been able to get into

1034
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,680
into the beginning of this case and

1035
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,000
continued on with it but uh you know i

1036
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,400
just saw somebody post up here andrew

1037
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:56,720
and gnomes trucking they mentioned

1038
00:39:02,390 --> 00:38:59,440
darien wisconsin which is interesting we

1039
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,400
had a um we had a wing humanoid sighting

1040
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,320
there it just flashed in my head when i

1041
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,880
saw the t the name come up

1042
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,119
so uh you know we've been getting these

1043
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,520
these humanoid settings in chicago but

1044
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,200
all around as well

1045
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,720
uh within

1046
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,040
we're taking cases within the 250 mile

1047
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:19,119
radius of chicago

1048
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,560
so uh yeah i mean

1049
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:24,800
i don't know i mean i i i

1050
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:29,440
there's so many things out there uh i

1051
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:32,880
i don't know i don't know what

1052
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,599
how even describe it i mean but i feel

1053
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,200
i've been fortunate i mean i've been

1054
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,680
very fortunate with this

1055
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,160
yeah i've only recently found out about

1056
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,560
the possible existence of giants on

1057
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,160
earth

1058
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,480
which was quite shocking to me because

1059
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:49,760
you know they certainly didn't teach

1060
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:53,040
that when i took anthropology in college

1061
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,640
and a house

1062
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,640
had a difficult enough time

1063
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,839
what they were teaching in college

1064
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,599
because they kept changing like

1065
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,680
the age of modern humans kept they kept

1066
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,079
pushing it back more and more and more

1067
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,000
and now it's become clear after reading

1068
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,280
forbidden archaeology by michael cremo

1069
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,960
i'm like wow

1070
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,880
and you know finding out about sasquatch

1071
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,800
and you know because there are accounts

1072
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:16,720
of people who have allegedly captured

1073
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:19,839
sasquatch bodies and try and trace them

1074
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,200
they'd disappear off into the

1075
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,240
smithsonian or something

1076
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:26,400
uh the mainstream knowledge on this is

1077
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,960
being suppressed

1078
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,560
on all these different things it's

1079
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,880
really quite unfortunate

1080
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:34,319
because there's a lot more going on i

1081
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:35,920
think than people realize

1082
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,680
yeah there's just so much going on uh

1083
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,520
and we just had a question bernadette

1084
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,119
would black-eyed kids be considered

1085
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:45,839
humanoid yeah i guess it would be

1086
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,480
uh i mean they're basically humans i

1087
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,680
suppose

1088
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,280
i don't know what your theories are my

1089
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:52,800
theories are that they're possessed

1090
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,920
humans

1091
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,880
uh now what are they possessed by

1092
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,119
extraterrestrial that's my guess but i

1093
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,800
really don't know um

1094
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,560
i don't think they're ets or i don't

1095
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,599
think they're

1096
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:05,920
non-terrestrial beings i think there

1097
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,000
there may be some type of possession

1098
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,160
involved there and i think in in some

1099
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:12,960
cases that that same type of

1100
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,589
yeah i i've never gotten any reports of

1101
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,480
black-eyed children yeah personally

1102
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,720
but also just moving along to a slightly

1103
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:28,480
different tangent there

1104
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:29,359
which

1105
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:31,280
with among ets there's

1106
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,880
so-called robotic uh creatures reported

1107
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,720
they're often humanoid

1108
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:38,480
which is like strange to me i'm like

1109
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,359
really robotic humanoids and they have

1110
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,880
you know eyes or you know two arms

1111
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,880
and legs if you're going to design a

1112
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:49,119
robot it was that really the best design

1113
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:50,480
but

1114
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,760
um okay there are many cases of what

1115
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,520
people perceive to be

1116
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:56,960
robotic

1117
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,040
humanoids and some of the grays even

1118
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,040
reportedly according to contactees are

1119
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,960
not biological

1120
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,800
so much they're

1121
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,200
biological androids perhaps particularly

1122
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:11,520
the shorter three foot tall

1123
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,240
grays that are not emotional

1124
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:16,160
so there's a lot there's a whole

1125
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,680
spectrum of stuff we're dealing with

1126
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:21,750
yeah we got another question from

1127
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,960
anastasia which is um

1128
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,400
this is something that happened a while

1129
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,400
back but it was about the uh we heard

1130
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,560
about the flying humanoids down in

1131
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,800
mexico which people called were said

1132
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,240
were witches

1133
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,240
uh that was around monterey that was

1134
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,160
that was good that went on

1135
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,160
i think it was like 2008 when that

1136
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,599
occurred

1137
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:42,960
but uh

1138
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,560
the only person i know of that really

1139
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,200
looked into that was ken gerhart

1140
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,760
and uh i don't know what those things

1141
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,760
were i mean it looked to me like it was

1142
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,920
somebody flying around some sort of type

1143
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:55,440
of contraption

1144
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,040
but people were saying down there that

1145
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,800
they were witches but of course that

1146
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,640
maybe has to do with the culture i don't

1147
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,640
know

1148
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:04,319
i saw that on some of those reality

1149
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:05,440
shows i'm like

1150
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,400
i don't know

1151
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:08,319
yeah i did interview one guy from i

1152
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,359
think it was

1153
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,359
gosh peru

1154
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:14,079
who dealt with a flying humanoid on a

1155
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:15,920
platform

1156
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,400
which is a little bit different but yeah

1157
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,319
it's still humanoid

1158
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,240
i mean there are cases from malaysia

1159
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,280
involving miniature humanoids

1160
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,200
oh there's a lot of cases of malaysia a

1161
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,800
lot of different things

1162
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,200
uh the oily man is the one i think of

1163
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,800
that's the one that really freaks me out

1164
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,960
you're wrong and my neck or it

1165
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,000
what they

1166
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,280
call that

1167
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,040
but uh there's a lot of other human

1168
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:41,040
noise that you know in that culture as

1169
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,160
well

1170
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,319
now is it real i don't know but i know

1171
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,480
it's you know people have sworn i've had

1172
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,640
encounters with these things and and and

1173
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,319
with with uh

1174
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,160
anna maria i mean

1175
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,560
uh you're from philippines and you've

1176
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,280
talked about ass lungs and other

1177
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,040
other humanoid beings and winged

1178
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:02,800
humanoids from that culture as well

1179
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,829
and i think that's flavored by um the

1180
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,520
particular religion

1181
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,599
uh there's always an allusion to it

1182
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,640
being uh demonic in origin or something

1183
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,560
to the effect of

1184
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:20,240
something to do with

1185
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,319
being a disembodied bodied entity

1186
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,040
uh that don't know it it's folklore uh

1187
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:30,079
it some people claim they have seen it

1188
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,280
and then

1189
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,040
you've got that other element you know

1190
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,480
people

1191
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:36,480
see things based on

1192
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,680
preconceived notions their own

1193
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,440
lens their own perception the way

1194
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:42,800
they're brought up

1195
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,280
so i mean before for all i know these

1196
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,560
things might be

1197
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,240
stations from something

1198
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:51,200
outside the planet that they they could

1199
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,400
also be

1200
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,400
uh et's

1201
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,400
but um you know the way they're

1202
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,400
interpreted they're evil they they do

1203
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,079
evil things and

1204
00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:02,240
that's about it and and malaysia i

1205
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,680
believe i'm not that familiar with their

1206
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,040
culture but i do know

1207
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,319
they have a lot of superstitions

1208
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,720
uh and they're all based on you know

1209
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,640
their belief system as well their

1210
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,760
religion

1211
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,800
yeah

1212
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:18,480
you know

1213
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:21,839
another humanoid phenomenon that has

1214
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,720
been raising his ugly head in recent

1215
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:27,200
years i just wrote a book about it

1216
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,359
the these pale crawers these pale

1217
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,760
humanoids that just seem to be springing

1218
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,280
up from nowhere

1219
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,880
um

1220
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,440
and it's it's kind of what

1221
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,240
my thoughts are and are twofold that

1222
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,079
is this

1223
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,079
well maybe three four i don't know but

1224
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,680
are these um some type of meme humanoids

1225
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,760
or some type of uh

1226
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,560
manifestation thought for manifestation

1227
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,480
of these beings you know we've we've

1228
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,480
heard about the slenderman phenomena

1229
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:57,359
where

1230
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,800
people had realized that our thought

1231
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,960
they realized that these beings were

1232
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,839
real

1233
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,200
even though it started out as an

1234
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,440
internet meme or a thought

1235
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,240
or you know and uh but

1236
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,119
then again we're seeing

1237
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,240
photographs and videos of these beings

1238
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,319
uh are we

1239
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,200
are we witnessing the nexus of a new

1240
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,680
species a new human or human life

1241
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:25,119
species

1242
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,280
anybody have any thoughts on that

1243
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,880
i haven't gotten any reports of those

1244
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,079
but

1245
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:34,560
it reminds me of the sudden well

1246
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:51,349
go ahead and go ahead anna

1247
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,589
oh oh i'm sorry

1248
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,680
what i was gonna say was i think you're

1249
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,200
on the right track with the thought

1250
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:59,440
forms

1251
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,359
one of the things that i've noticed is

1252
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,800
that people

1253
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,400
tend to jump in

1254
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,160
in the bandwagon like in the case of

1255
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,640
slender man it started

1256
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,960
with one kid

1257
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,040
propagating uh you know this uh

1258
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,280
creepypasta figure

1259
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,119
and then the next thing you know it

1260
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,760
takes on energy and and the key element

1261
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,599
here

1262
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,240
is that you know our minds are extremely

1263
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:25,920
powerful

1264
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,960
and it when our two people get together

1265
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,440
and they start creating some type of a

1266
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,800
myth

1267
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,359
it takes hold

1268
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:36,480
and then

1269
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,309
hundreds then

1270
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:44,000
thousands of

1271
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,200
people

1272
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,160
that are perpetrating a myth it takes

1273
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,200
it's a power of its own

1274
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,599
and then suddenly you've got

1275
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:55,119
exciting

1276
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,960
it's whether they're real or not i don't

1277
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,160
know i mean you have to have

1278
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,720
collaborative evidence you have to have

1279
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,800
a group of people saying all at the same

1280
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,640
time

1281
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,400
without you know knowing each other

1282
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:08,160
being related to each other that it

1283
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:09,200
exists

1284
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,240
uh

1285
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,880
in the case of center man he he doesn't

1286
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:14,400
exist

1287
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:17,119
uh he's merrily a thought

1288
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,160
form

1289
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,559
and i think the the pale humanoid you're

1290
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,559
talking about might

1291
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:24,880
actually be just a manifestation of

1292
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:29,670
creating another

1293
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,640
myth

1294
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:32,240
uh maybe

1295
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:34,480
a

1296
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,520
in the world right now

1297
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:41,040
i don't know

1298
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:42,400
yeah

1299
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:44,480
uh preston what were you saying again

1300
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,760
sorry sorry preston you were gonna add

1301
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,280
worries yeah i mean it reminds me of the

1302
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:52,000
tulpas of ancient india where people can

1303
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:53,680
create entities

1304
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:55,760
but it also reminds me of you know

1305
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,359
the sudden influx of the uh

1306
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,160
chupacabra which seemed to be a unique

1307
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:04,240
and new phenomena that we hadn't heard

1308
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:05,440
before

1309
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:07,760
and now suddenly here is a flood of

1310
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,800
reports sweeping i think starting in

1311
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:13,680
puerto rico as it or south america

1312
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,720
and

1313
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:16,319
swept into the united states at one

1314
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,359
point

1315
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,839
uh and i'm not talking about the dog you

1316
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,760
know like creature that is portrayed in

1317
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,599
some of the reality shows but

1318
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:24,880
you know more like you're portraying

1319
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:26,079
here

1320
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,079
um look very much like that according to

1321
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:30,240
the eyewitness accounts and i wonder how

1322
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,119
to

1323
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,960
like where did this come from is this a

1324
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:35,119
new species could this be something that

1325
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,800
was released by ets i don't see any

1326
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:40,640
evidence of that it's not connected to

1327
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,680
the ufo phenomena directly in any way

1328
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,720
could it be a government genetic stuff

1329
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,280
not so sure of that either

1330
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,640
so i don't know where these guys are

1331
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,720
coming from but it seems hard for me to

1332
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,000
believe that they remained hidden and

1333
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,440
then suddenly appeared and were getting

1334
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,800
so many reports

1335
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,200
and they kind of faded away

1336
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,880
i don't know if we're still getting the

1337
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,359
classic chupacabra reports or not

1338
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,040
but it just goes to speak to what you're

1339
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,520
talking about the appearance of new

1340
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,680
types of entities that we haven't seen

1341
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,839
before

1342
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,400
yeah we are getting a lot of these these

1343
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:17,359
new humanoid sightings and eric eric i

1344
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,480
think and

1345
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,880
can uh expand on that because

1346
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:23,280
pennsylvania seems to be getting hot too

1347
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,319
for these

1348
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:27,200
these uh pale humanoid settings i mean i

1349
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,640
talked to um

1350
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,880
to stan not long ago and he mentioned a

1351
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,480
few of them uh

1352
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,839
what do you say eric they've been

1353
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:35,839
popping up your way

1354
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,480
i haven't received any personally

1355
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,119
but uh as you mentioned stan has and he

1356
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,200
shares that information with me and

1357
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:45,280
there's been uh several reports over the

1358
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,079
last few years of people seeing these

1359
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:50,160
pale skinned

1360
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:51,359
entities

1361
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:54,559
and they're not like your typical

1362
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,079
bigfoot or dog man or any of the other

1363
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,319
um extraterrestrial lifeforms that we've

1364
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,520
discussed here tonight these are

1365
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,559
different

1366
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:04,240
and they very well might be the tulpa

1367
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,599
thoughtform

1368
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,960
creatures because

1369
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,880
there's really not a long history of

1370
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,119
these types of things unless you look at

1371
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,760
the rake and that's been around for a

1372
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:15,440
few years at least coming forward into

1373
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,640
the mainstream

1374
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,200
populace the last couple of years but

1375
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,200
yeah it's starting to

1376
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:23,119
increase in the number of sightings

1377
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,640
there's been some pretty credible

1378
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,160
eyewitnesses

1379
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,160
i recall

1380
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,920
if i'm not mistaken a law enforcement

1381
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,839
officer had one across the road in front

1382
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,640
of his vehicle that what was formless he

1383
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,000
could see an outline of something but

1384
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,000
then eventually turned into this white

1385
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,839
scaly looking thing that disappeared

1386
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,280
into a field

1387
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:43,119
and uh that was probably within the last

1388
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:44,319
few years but there's been there were

1389
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,240
more and more reports popping up what

1390
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,599
these things are i have no idea

1391
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,200
yeah i mean i wrote a book about it i

1392
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,040
have no idea what they really are i mean

1393
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,440
you know i put it out there for

1394
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:57,520
consumption and maybe folks can come up

1395
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:00,079
with their own conclusion but um

1396
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,359
it is a bizarre phenomena um

1397
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,119
you know we had a question earlier that

1398
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:07,119
from vincent about

1399
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,040
humanoids

1400
00:52:14,589 --> 00:52:11,440
interacting with each other

1401
00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:14,599
do you have any cases or any uh

1402
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,870
investigations or

1403
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,280
[Music]

1404
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,319
even reports of human i mean of humanoid

1405
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:25,430
definitely that turns up quite a bit in

1406
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:29,990
uh

1407
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,319
we see gray's interacting with mantids

1408
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,319
interacting with humans

1409
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,160
quite a bit

1410
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:37,920
uh so

1411
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:41,119
i'm gonna say a big yes with that yeah

1412
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,349
well you know of course we

1413
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,960
we see a lot of it you know just like

1414
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:52,559
with bigfoot and other cryptids we see a

1415
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:56,000
lot of association with other phenomena

1416
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,200
uh ufos orbs such and uh you know

1417
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,520
but as far as humanoids

1418
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,359
yeah like like you just said that that

1419
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:07,680
does pop up every once in a while

1420
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,880
um

1421
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,240
as far as

1422
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,920
some of the newer types of humanoids

1423
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,079
that we were talking about the pale

1424
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,160
humanoids i i'll be honest with you

1425
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:17,839
that's an interesting question that he

1426
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,640
brought up i don't really

1427
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,960
remember

1428
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,040
there being more than one of these

1429
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,720
sightings i mean like i said a pair

1430
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,480
i don't even think i know i i know of

1431
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:31,839
one case

1432
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:35,520
where up in in ontario on a farm

1433
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,960
where this individual said they saw

1434
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,960
multiple

1435
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,119
pale humanoid beings

1436
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,520
but from what i believe i believe he may

1437
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:47,680
have seen the same one several times so

1438
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,800
i don't know

1439
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,119
but uh yeah that it does seem to be a

1440
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:53,760
singular type phenomena so i don't know

1441
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:02,390
i guess i'm curious if anyone has ever

1442
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:06,240
tried to get footprints or photographs

1443
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,520
or

1444
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,000
i mean is there any kind of illustration

1445
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,079
of what they look like i mean i haven't

1446
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,000
seen your book long but

1447
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,920
i'm just curious if there's any kind of

1448
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,760
evidence

1449
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:19,680
yeah there have been some videos and

1450
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,400
there have been some

1451
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:24,800
some photographs taken that i believe

1452
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,040
are legit i mean of course there's been

1453
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,680
a lot of cgi stuff out there

1454
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:32,000
but uh

1455
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,440
there was a video from um

1456
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,440
from poland

1457
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,760
of one of these things making noise out

1458
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,440
in the woods they and the guy went out

1459
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,599
there and and farmer went out there and

1460
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,920
actually videotaped this thing

1461
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,799
uh pretty compelling evidence um

1462
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,440
he had had he had had encounters on his

1463
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:52,559
farm

1464
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,400
uh he had he had

1465
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,319
a kind of a partial

1466
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:58,559
photograph of one

1467
00:55:01,349 --> 00:55:00,079
in the barn

1468
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,359
but uh

1469
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,680
that's probably the best one that i've

1470
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:05,839
seen

1471
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:07,599
course you know they're

1472
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,960
all this is relative i mean you know

1473
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,000
you know

1474
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:13,920
just like in bigfoot in

1475
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:17,280
in dogman or upright canines um you know

1476
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,319
photographic evidence is

1477
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:23,119
it has a lot to be desired i mean i i

1478
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,559
guess

1479
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,640
it's not like you get the patterson

1480
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,400
gimlet film out there every day i mean

1481
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:30,960
you get you get some representations

1482
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,599
most of them are pretty blurry

1483
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:35,920
i don't like to rely on photographic

1484
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,559
evidence so i will post some

1485
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,960
some decent photographs who i think have

1486
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:41,680
some

1487
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,760
possibilities of being real i'll do that

1488
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:47,760
on the blog occasionally

1489
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,880
but i don't like to rely on that

1490
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,920
but can i

1491
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:53,920
pose a question to uh

1492
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,400
to preston and anna and yourself lon i

1493
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,000
want to get your thoughts on the night

1494
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,400
stalker videos that have come out

1495
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,040
in the last uh decade or so

1496
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:05,200
from california and some other places

1497
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,720
across the country that

1498
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:08,160
we're taking on the security cameras

1499
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:11,440
that appear to show some kind of upright

1500
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:13,040
walking

1501
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,400
pants exactly and several people have

1502
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,760
thrown out their opinions on those do

1503
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,119
you think those fall into the category

1504
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:23,680
of hominids or humanoids or anything

1505
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,240
along those lines you know i wrote a

1506
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,480
little bit about it in my book

1507
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,640
um

1508
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,440
this that has been seen in in more than

1509
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,680
one place as well it's been it was

1510
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:37,200
actually seen

1511
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,799
in a park where there were several of

1512
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,400
these beings

1513
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:42,319
there was another

1514
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,680
capture

1515
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:45,119
in somebody's

1516
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:46,880
yard

1517
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,520
but they were all around the uh the

1518
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,680
fresno

1519
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:53,839
central california area from what i

1520
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:55,920
could i don't think i've ever seen one

1521
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:58,559
from anywhere else now

1522
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,040
there have been some

1523
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,520
i've seen sketches of similar type

1524
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,520
things beings

1525
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,839
that people have described from other

1526
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,839
places i don't know if they're the same

1527
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:11,520
thing

1528
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:14,160
what do i think they are

1529
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:15,440
i don't know

1530
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:19,200
if i had there's a perfect example what

1531
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:20,799
people have been seeing

1532
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,390
i don't know i would say maybe

1533
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,400
ultra-terrestrial

1534
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,799
possibly extraterrestrial

1535
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:34,960
uh they don't seem to be indigenous they

1536
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:37,280
don't seem to stick around that there's

1537
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:38,480
the photo

1538
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:41,119
one of the screen captures from uh from

1539
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,079
poland

1540
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,559
of this thing but anyway it's up there

1541
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,880
on on the screen now

1542
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,720
but uh

1543
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,200
i i had three of them in the book that

1544
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:54,880
were the better screen captures but uh

1545
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:57,280
as far as these nightcrawlers i don't

1546
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:58,480
know

1547
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:00,799
i i'm interested to think would see what

1548
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,319
preston and anna think about them

1549
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:06,960
uh well i've certainly seen the videos

1550
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,400
of them and i think it's probably legit

1551
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:12,480
i think there's some evidence that

1552
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:13,920
this has been going on for a while

1553
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,559
wasn't there some native americans

1554
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,000
talking about this

1555
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:20,720
having stories going reaching back

1556
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:23,520
quite some time i don't know

1557
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,799
i think this is a good example of

1558
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:26,799
perhaps an entity that's not your

1559
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:28,400
standard humanoid

1560
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,640
these are weird beyond

1561
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:33,200
categorization

1562
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:34,720
i really have no idea what to think of

1563
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,470
i'm stumped by this one because they're

1564
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:42,559
just their movement

1565
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:45,680
is very slow and just kind of meandering

1566
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:48,079
along but on the methodical robotic type

1567
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,040
movement

1568
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:51,359
i mean that's what i consider it being

1569
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,720
i mean it's just like a pair of pants

1570
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,640
out there walking around it's weird

1571
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,319
it doesn't look like it's you know some

1572
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:58,559
natural phenomena though

1573
00:59:03,109 --> 00:58:59,839
yeah it looks like there's it's

1574
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,119
something but i can't imagine what it is

1575
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:05,200
i really i don't know

1576
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,549
so there are videos of this is that what

1577
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:14,720
you're saying on where they're actually

1578
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,160
seen moving

1579
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,760
yeah they're wrong yeah

1580
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,200
so

1581
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,200
just i'm just going to throw this out

1582
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:23,359
because the first thing i thought of

1583
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:25,680
here um

1584
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,359
if you gentlemen remember the elisa lamb

1585
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:31,680
case

1586
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:35,040
where the young lady flew in from i

1587
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,599
believe she was from canada she ended up

1588
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,119
in a hotel

1589
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:41,599
that was infamous in california

1590
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:42,880
somewhere

1591
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:47,119
in hollywood uh there was a footage of

1592
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:48,319
her

1593
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,119
uh

1594
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,160
going into an elevator

1595
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:54,640
and it looked like she was ducking away

1596
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,880
from something and from

1597
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,280
from the edge of the elevator if you go

1598
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,280
back i i think the footage is still on

1599
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,760
youtube somewhere

1600
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,920
you will see

1601
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,920
yeah there's a

1602
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:09,839
form

1603
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,799
just

1604
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,359
outside

1605
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:14,960
the elevator

1606
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,799
and and that's what that reminds me of

1607
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:20,160
that uh

1608
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:25,910
i'm not saying that's what it was that

1609
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,160
she was fleeing from but it that was the

1610
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:33,109
i could do a whole show on that at least

1611
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:36,000
a lamb thing uh that that's a nutty case

1612
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,440
um

1613
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:38,880
of course i mean

1614
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:42,640
in a nutshell this woman was disappeared

1615
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:45,200
and her body was later found in a water

1616
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:46,720
water tank above

1617
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:49,200
above the hotel and i forget the name of

1618
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:50,880
the hotel but i know it's an infamous

1619
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,760
hotel for a long time hotel what's that

1620
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:55,920
the cecil hotel yeah the cecil hotel

1621
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:56,880
right

1622
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:00,160
it's actually in the area skid row in

1623
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,230
interesting

1624
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:17,349
anybody have anything else to add

1625
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:18,950
all right well like

1626
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:22,000
okay well i i guess what we can do

1627
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:22,839
is

1628
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:26,079
uh go around to go around the table here

1629
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:27,280
and uh

1630
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,000
have each one of you tell us what you

1631
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,480
have going on and how they can contact

1632
01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:34,319
people can contact you

1633
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:36,799
uh tell us about your books

1634
01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:38,880
and uh or whatever else or any

1635
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,119
appearances you have uh preston we'll

1636
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:43,040
start with you

1637
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:44,880
yeah thanks lon thanks for having me on

1638
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,440
the show i was sorry that albert

1639
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:48,960
rosalie's couldn't make it i was really

1640
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:51,040
interested in talking to him because i

1641
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:52,640
love his work on

1642
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:55,359
his multi-volume set humanoids amongst

1643
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,799
us

1644
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,079
but yeah i've

1645
01:02:02,950 --> 01:01:59,839
just put out my latest book it's called

1646
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:02,960
symmetry a true ufo adventure i'm super

1647
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:05,599
excited about it it's the true story of

1648
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:07,440
a woman who's had fully conscious

1649
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:09,920
encounters since age 14.

1650
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,079
definitely not your average ufo

1651
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,160
encounter story

1652
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,920
and i can

1653
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:16,720
uh

1654
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,480
you can contact me through my website

1655
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,039
just punch in my name on the internet it

1656
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,880
should take you there

1657
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:24,559
my books are available on amazon i'm

1658
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:25,359
also

1659
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,480
on facebook and twitter and instagram

1660
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,960
i think these are important subjects

1661
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,799
i think it's time for people to wake up

1662
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:34,960
and realize we're not alone

1663
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:36,880
we share this planet with

1664
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,200
numerous other species some of which may

1665
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:41,280
be very intelligent

1666
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:42,880
so i really appreciate the opportunity

1667
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:45,119
to talk about this thanks very much well

1668
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,200
i appreciate you coming on

1669
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,280
uh anna can you do you have anything you

1670
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:53,750
yeah sure um i've got two books out

1671
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:56,319
there on amazon one has been out there

1672
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,200
since 2016 and just went into its second

1673
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:01,680
edition uh last year called portal

1674
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,079
lifetime with paranormal experiences i

1675
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,789
oops

1676
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:10,960
yeah her connection's been bad that's

1677
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:12,960
unfortunate

1678
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:15,520
okay uh eric tell us tell us what's

1679
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:17,520
going on with eric altman

1680
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:18,880
and tell us when you're going to finally

1681
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:21,520
write that first book

1682
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,760
i'm spending too much time in the field

1683
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,240
i'm i'm out in the woods every weekend

1684
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:28,799
um this week i've been out three times

1685
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:32,240
so far and uh checking out active areas

1686
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,160
and historical areas for

1687
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:36,640
activity and sightings i'm always on the

1688
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,200
go as far as field research goes so

1689
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:41,760
my schedule's so busy and i'm organizing

1690
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:44,160
events and i'm lecturing at events and

1691
01:03:47,829 --> 01:03:45,359
uh

1692
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:47,839
i've got several events coming up in in

1693
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the year across the state and into uh

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maryland some other states i'll be

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lecturing um on the subject of the

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chestnut ridge in southwestern

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pennsylvania and all the mysterious

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phenomenon that goes on here the cryptid

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01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:01,920
phenomenon the ufo phenomenon the

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haunted locations all the strange things

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01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:06,079
that go on in the chestnut ridge i'm

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01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,599
currently filming with seth reid love

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01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:11,760
small town monsters he's doing he's

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going to be releasing uh an eight

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01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:16,880
episode mini series on the ridge and

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01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,799
we're filming with him so

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i've got that going on plus as i

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mentioned i got several events coming up

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01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:23,200
here

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in 2022 and a big event coming in 2023

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that i'm working on so i i have no time

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to sit down and write a book

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unfortunately one of these days i'll get

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around to it because yeah you know i i i

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tell i ask sean the same thing all the

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time

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uh yeah you're between you and sean i've

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known you guys for over a decade now and

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you keep talking about a book but you

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and never quite get

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pulled i mean uh

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pull the trigger on it so uh maybe one

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01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,520
day we'll get something down again yeah

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maybe one day um i have enough

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01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:55,760
information over the past 27 years to

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put several books together and get them

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published right i just i don't have

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i guess you

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i don't know what the term is um i'm not

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01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:05,680
i don't have the the patience of the

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tolerance to sit down and maybe it's 80d

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01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,640
or adhd i don't know but i don't have

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that patience to sit down and actually

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01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,000
write yeah um

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01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:16,559
i'm more at home in the field doing the

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01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:18,319
actual field work and

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01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,799
chasing these hairy hominids around

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01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:22,880
well i can appreciate that

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01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:25,039
so anna once again you get another pl

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01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:26,960
another plug at this uh tell us about

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01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:28,240
your book and

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01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:32,079
uh how you can be found okay

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01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:34,160
yeah before i get cut off i do have a

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01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,839
third book coming up it's going to be

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01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:37,440
released early summer it's called

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01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:40,400
haunted heirlooms uh and it's about four

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01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,079
antique dealers i got to know through

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01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:43,680
the years

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01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,000
and the haunted objects that came across

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01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:48,240
their way that they had to deal with so

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01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:50,319
that's coming out in early uh late

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01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:53,039
spring early summer we do have a website

1753
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,710
people can also connect with me on

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01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,319
facebook and i have a storytelling

1755
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,319
podcast it's called the sinister

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01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:04,640
archives thank you so much for having me

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01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:05,440
on

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01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:07,119
uh well folks i appreciate you all

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01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:09,280
taking time to come on here tonight

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and uh i hope you enjoyed it and we

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01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:13,599
definitely enjoyed having you so you all

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01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:16,559
take care and have a great weekend

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01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:24,950
so if you have an unexplained encounter

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01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:26,720
or a sighting feel free to contact me

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01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,160
directly at lawn stricker

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01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,720
familymonsters.com or through the

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01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,119
families of monsters blog slate

1768
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:35,200
also if you would like your encounter

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01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,359
assigning red on the show and please

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01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:40,000
please forward your email to me

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01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:40,960
uh

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01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:43,680
we're going to be developing a

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01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,440
a segment or show uh where i do read

1774
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:50,240
encounter reports that i receive so you

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01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,760
can look forward to that in our near

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01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:53,119
future

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i also want to thank preston and anna

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01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:59,280
and and eric for coming on tonight

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01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:00,480
uh

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01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:02,799
it it was great to have him on here and

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01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,720
we're glad we could put this together

1782
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,079
for you

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01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,319
and thanks to each and all of you for

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01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:10,240
watching and chatting now if you made a

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01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:12,559
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01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:17,680
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and also become a member of phantoms of

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01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:22,160
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my new book the meme humanoids modern

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01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,720
myths are real monsters is now available

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on amazon.com

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and i believe

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01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:32,000
uh

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01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:33,839
vincent may have given two of those out

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01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:36,319
this evening so um

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01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,960
when you do get it i hope you enjoy so

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01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:40,480
next week

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uh we will and i i didn't get a chance

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01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,720
to write this down but we will have

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01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:46,960
morgan knutson on with us

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01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,160
she has a new book out uh that she also

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01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:51,839
had published that

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01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:53,920
beyond the free publishing

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01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:56,480
and uh we'll be discussing that and it

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01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:58,960
should be a very interesting and uh

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01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:01,920
entertaining discussion as well so

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01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,240
make sure to join us for that so until

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01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:06,319
next week stay healthy and have a safe

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[Music]

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do

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so